Gentleman whether he would consider accepting the removal of the words "in his opinion." to submit a few considerations why that cannot be so. I do not wish to suggest that any Secretary of State could be more conscientious than the present Secretary of State, but a very conscientious Secretary of State might feel himself limited by the word "satisfied" to cases where there was very strong and very rigid proof. I do not regard myself as an overwhelmingly intelligent person, but I did not find the slightest difficulty in applying either of those two what I may call irregular standards of proof. [108]. That matter was brought up in the House of Lords—not the judicial body, but the legislative assembly. If I were charged with an offence I should certainly want to know what those things were. An hon. There is no other country where such a discussion as that we are having this afternoon could take place, seeing that within the last two hours a dozen innocent people have been killed or wounded. It was a state of affairs parallel to that in India. The object of this Amendment is to provide that the power of making an expulsion order, contained in Clause I shall only be exercised subject to the provisions of the proposed Schedule (Procedure for making expulsion and prohibition orders) which will be found later on the Order Paper. In either case the final responsibility under the procedure remains with the Secretary of State, and he will be open to criticism in this House. Let us not assume that everyone who is trying to protect the rights of the innocent is in favour of the guilty. Gentleman's Amendment together, and as far as we are concerned, we have no desire to divide on the second. A consent in writing has been signed by shareholders having not less than the minimum number of votes required by statute and I find myself in some difficulty, because in Clause 1 I do not see anything about "suspicion," I do not see the word "suspect" even mentioned, and in those circumstances it is a little difficult to understand just what is the charge that either my right hon. The issue of remedies also serves to distinguish De Keyser as there is no comparable remedy in this case [234]. The hon. There is no question of a point of Order here. the Great Seal of the State of Illinois, at the City of Springfield, this 17TH day of JULY A.D. 1998 and of the Independence of the United States the two hundred and 23RD. I am coming to the specific points later. I apologise for interrupting the hon. There is no suggestion that the 2016 Referendum has legal effect. organized. The fact that the Home Secretary advises the Sovereign as to the commutation of the death penalty is an example of the great responsibility he exercises, and we have no reason whatever to be ashamed of it —the responsibility of revising the sentences of judges. Friend makes. Members for Stafford (Mr. Thorneycroft) and Cambridge Univesity (Mr. Pickthorn). Member. Questions: 1. At present there is no sympathy for these people at all, but suppose that the wrong man is punished for something. Gentleman, that to-morrow he should have a talk with me, and then we should adopt the procedure suggested, namely, that the changes, if changes are to be made, will be made in another place. (either annual or special) or (2) by consent, in writing, without a meeting. outrages, will probably be out of work. As everybody knows, in some of these cases you cannot disclose the source of your information without not only imperilling, in the sense that you might not get any more information, but endangering someone's life. It is our intention to incorporate the effect of that Amendment in Clause 1 (5), and at the same time to implement the promise I made that we will also incorporate something in Sub-section (5) which will enable an indication to be given to the person who is served with an order that he is in fact believed to be concerned with preparation, instigation or harbouring, as the case may be, which are the provisions of Sub-section (2). Member has no right to say that. If the imperfections of the evidence or the ingenious answers to the evidence can deceive a High Court judge to such an extent as to make him say that he is not satisfied that the person in question has been concerned in the preparation or instigation of acts of violence when he is, in fact, a person who is immediately afterwards to walk down Whitehall and blow up this House—if somebody can The value of each share would be $20. At least one share of stock must be indicated. Section 2 of the 1972 Act is the central provision of the 1972 Act. On Monday, he agreed with me that it provided for perpetual exile. Yet how can we influence the Home Secretary on matters on which he is bound to secrecy? The SoS also claims that notification does not ‘alter any laws in the UK: it merely initiates a process of negotiation’. these Articles of Amendment to its Articles of Incorporation. The principle is that he should have an opportunity of calling witnesses in his own defence. The Sewel Convention has been recognised in the Scotland Act 2016 but it remains a ‘political convention’. that have been proposed on this side of the Committee—are included, and provided there is in the Bill itself some mention of the fact that the substance of the charge against the man will at some point that is not too late be given to him who is the sufferer in the case. The Home Secretary can, of course, refuse to refer a case to the investigating agent, but if he refers a case has the individual, that is the investigating person, power under the proposal to receive all the information in the possession of the Home Secretary? That suggestion may come better from somebody else. I have as much dislike to internment as the right hon. Susanna would have been stoned to death and the Elders would have been justified and held up as examples to all men. The hon. The proposal of the Home Secretary, on the other hand, is to nominate somebody—and it may be anybody— without any experience. ( Log Out /  Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Press Esc to cancel. I have had some experience of con spiracies followed by murder, and of incendiarism and the like. and examine all the evidence in the possession of the Secretary of State. I refer the Home Secretary to the tragic case of the Wheeldon family. The right hon. He might still remain perfectly satisfied that this man was an accomplice in the conspiracy, and yet, because it was reported to him, and he accepted the report, that the man had been here 20 years, the man would go free of the expulsion order. Secondly, it shows that Parliament is ’perfectly capable of making clear its intention to restrict the exercise of the prerogative when it wishes to do so’. I think the Committee will agree in the main with the right hon. What will you do in cases like that? The prerogative includes the power to negotiate amend and withdraw from treaties. On a couple of occasions, I have worked with founders whose corporations (prior to retaining me) issued a small number of their authorized shares. I do not think the retention of these words is essential to the Bill. I would like to utter a word of warning to my right hon. Member had said in the course of the discussion), but contrary to a decision already arrived at by the Committee. Cannot the Solicitor-General give a promise that between now and the Report stage some consideration can be given to the matter? Friend the Member for Stafford (Mr. Thorneycroft), in a speech which seemed to disregard a very large number of the material facts, spoke of things which had gone on well for 500 years and said that he preferred to keep them as they were. They were arrested, taken to Bow Street, and strictly and minutely examined, and they were thereupon released. That may be, but the hon. Would it be possible for the right hon. The counter-argument that these rights were just a function of ‘membership of the club’ was said to have ‘some force’. (“X” one box only). I do not think the Home Secretary was well advised to bring forward in his speech the other day that "S" plan, which was exposed at Bow Street some months ago, and which has provided splash headlines for the newspapers and suggestions about Guy Fawkes, and so on. Friend was questioned upon that matter in the Debate. I must repeat that in the interests of security we deem this period of 20 years necessary. The Members of the Com- But in order to get that person out of the way, they would make a deportation order which could not be complied with and thus get the young person into prison by a roundabout way. the main question centres on two very well understood constitutional rules, which in this case apparently point in opposite directions. The second is that the Secretary of State cannot normally exercise any powers he has if it would result in a change in UK domestic law unless he has authorisation from an Act of Parliament.

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