I just found one error in the "Boats By Year" PDF as it states the only KL Sunrunner was in '94 however all catalogs (94-97) list the KL version. About 67lbs. The odd thing is the boat is camouflage from the factory. I agree that you want as light a boat as you can get to make it easy to use. WIth that all said I am going to work towards lightening our overall load & try to get a handle on paddling efficiency gains with this boat vs the We-no-nah Boundary Waters Ultralight we took last as the trip is fresh in my mind. Scored this on craigslist for free! Mine are really beat up, so the boat is without any decks right now. So their thinking was the cary handles and seat spacers flex but the seat frames and yoke don't? If you prefer kneeling when you paddle, make sure that your feet fit comfortably underneath the bench seats. Your canoe was built in May of 2000. It also looks like perfect paddling weather today. It would not be a great solo boat because its so big for one person. And yes Watco is considered an oilthey make many products. I hope your wife likes the color and I hope you share your impressions of the boat once youve spent some time in it. You can find some information about discontinued Mad River canoe models on their website. It sounds silly, but a light boat gets used more And just looking at the specs of the sunrunner it sounds like a well handling boat. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. It turns out the Sunrunner is a great boat for touring midwestern rivers and lakes. The Journey 156 is a design thats at home wherever you paddle, offering a blend of sophistication and durability. The more I read about glass canoes the more I understand their benefits as in rigidity, sharper entry points (efficiency), and lighter than Royalex which I wouldn't have guessed. For a 10-day trip we carried about 310 lbs of flesh, 35 lb food pack, 45 lb gear pack (which could loose 10 lbs if I can convince myself to leave our rubber boots at home) and a 20 lb backpack with fishing gear, med kit, raingear, etc. We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. Thanks for the suggestion on the seat trusses and also the link to Ed's Canoe. Based on the specs that Mike provided it relatively narrow and as a "stretched Malecite" your planned load is idealthe boat will be fast, maneuverable, and lightly loaded. Its a beautiful canoe with graceful lines, Swifts classic two-tone color scheme and features like cherry seats and yokes. Generally my son would carry that with the food pack and then we did a return trip for the main gear pack. Find Mad River in Boats For Sale. sounds like leisurely day trips are the intended use, boat weight can be a factor as we get older. JavaScript is disabled. Peace, Micah. Canoe Mad River Explorer. On the underside of the bow deckplate is written the hull ID number so I would imagine these are original. Like the Adventure, the Journey is made with three-layer polyethylene. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. In 94-96 they made KE versions however my 94 catalog does not mention them. It consists of three distinct layers. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Just kidding I cant comment on the last 2 boats. Its a modern hull that does a lot of things very well. No camping, no white water just pleasure. Congrats on your new boat! We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. They are just too perfect to have been replaced and this thing has had virtually no use. Old Town - Camper 15 from 1996 (an aqua color that the wife thinks is great) and a Discovery 174 - I think the camper will be lighter and easier to load and unload. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe . While firsthand experience is the best way to fully realize a canoes performance, expert reviews are the next best way. However waiting in their phone queue right now so maybe close to getting some answers?? MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. It might stand for an Airex foam core hybrid but that is only a guess. Paddlesports participation is booming, driving the demand for outdoor equipment, whether its new or used. 3/8 . New ash inwales/gunnels, decks, new webbed seats, buffed the hull. Its in pretty good shape except for the need for some gelcoat repair and the need to replace the gunwale. All the performance of the Adventure 16, with added stability and ease of handling on and off the water. Mad Rivers Explorer in Kevlar Fusion or carbon are both good choices for paddlers who want a lightweight composite canoe. Introducing the new Explorer 16. A company representative reports that they hope to start making canoes again in 2023. The spacious 167 is versatile and stable, with more speed and storage for longer trips on bigger water. The kevlar PVC version was sometimes billed as Kevlar H (for Hybrid). If the humidity ever drops so the oil can completely dry, I hope to get it out on the water for a test drive yet this fall. That said, if you spot a good condition, reasonably priced Wenona Aurora or Mad River Malecite (especially in kevlar), Id favor those two over the five you listed. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Canoes from companies that have been around for decades, like Mad River, will periodically make their way onto used listings. Experience Mad River Canoe. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. I would imagine a well-built glass canoe such as this will not oil-can and am wondering if typical kevlar ultralights do? boats. Am also going to put out the feelers for more MR boats of this vintage in hopes of scoring another as MN is a good place for this and I have an untapped, affluent source in mind. Reading reviews provides the insight you wouldnt get otherwise. Might not sound like much, but it makes a big difference. Manufactured mid 1990's. About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. No wood rot. Recreational canoes are a great choice for new paddlers or those who value stability over speed. Manufactured mid 1990's17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. Another document states that only the gunnels need to be oiled (as apposed to varnish) as they flex but further reading suggests Gunwale Guard be used on carry handles, decks, and seat spacers. There is an "E" after the "MAD", so it's an explorer. Maybe you have insight on this? A couple even older models show up - a 1980 vintage Pathfinder 15 (which seems to be the predecessor to the camper) - though I am unclear what the weight might be - Old Town Pathfinder Oltonar, and this cedar fiberglass from 1976 a Mansfield Stowe 15 foot - Mansfield Stowe - Seems like this company has been out of business since the late 1990s -. If you are looking for a superior built, light-weight canoe, then take a look at at this Mad River 18' TW Special. Many models have been phased in and out through the years, and recently theyve focused on three canoe models: the Adventure, Explorer and Journey. They are not as wide, meaning they wont have the same initial stability. CL. This route seems most consistent with original. Instead got the bathroom scale out again and weighed myself and then me with shouldered canoe and did the math. 3) Anyone have leads on one of these in the kevlar 55 lb or lightweight 44 lb version? columbia, MO. Has anybody ever seen a camo Kevlar boat? http://myccr.com/phpbbforum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=40923, http://www.edscanoe.com/doityourself.html, https://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Precis70_&dpSrc=srch, Algonquin Park 2021: Tim Lake - Nipissing River - Magnetawan Lake Loop, Cooper Pond - The Hard Way (North Maine Woods), Algonquin Park May 2019: Kiosk to Birchcliffe Cabin Loop. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Thats not hard and would cost a little over $100 for seats, seat drops and hardware. Try (carefully) sitting in it while the canoe is resting on grass. Canoe Mad River Explorer. Completely agreed that plastic end caps are hokey however very practical if this thing will be used as a tripper. The KA at the end does not count. Mad River Explorer 16 Canoe. Asking $700 for it. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. In 2022, Confluence Outdoor, Mad Rivers parent company, announced they were pausing canoe production. You might let the ends of your handles, thwarts, and drops soak in oil overnightonce in their lifetime, and I'd drip some oil down those drops. I'll be interested in what you find out when you get out of the phone queue. I would like to get my hands on the stock end caps to see how they fit in considering your water-trap concern. Maine-based Old Town is one of Americas original canoe manufacturers. How about personality? Ultimately I would. Awesome progress and enthusiasm Micah! Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Mad River Canoe Replacement seats. no hidden. by openboat Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:01 pm, Post If the part you need is not stocked by Mad River Canoe or you don't see your canoe model listed, we suggest you try Edscanoes.com. Their hulls have a rounder, shallow-arch shape, in contrast to the flatter bottom of the Adventure. Simply looking at canoe specifications and descriptions doesnt provide insight into the small details of how it feels on the water. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe Asking 1250.00 Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Most all HINs of that vintage, and all of those used by MRC to my knowledge, used a 12 character HIN. post. id old mad riverMAD99584M80G-K 18 foot wicker seats with backs. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Re: Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbe, https://www.cboats.net/cforum/viewtopic ial+number, http://picasaweb.google.com/scott.broam/CanoeOutfitting. Thanks - that one was just out of my search area that I used - added another 50 miles and now I see it. Light canoes are a beautiful thing. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Since the change, all the # tells someone is month and year. I would also consider other manufacturers with wood gunwales if equal to the Explorer - Penobscot? Its available in two sizes, 16.5 and 15.5 feet. Probably depends on ribs, etc. Make Is that the measurement you meant? Mad River typically appended a "K" to the end of the HIN on their Kevlar boats. 3/4 . If its lightly used as the ad says then its a great deal. Discussion of all things WhiteWater Canoe related, Moderators: kenneth, sbroam, TheKrikkitWars, Mike W., Sir Adam, KNeal, PAC, adamin, Post Timeless and Rugged. Essential information like specifications, prices and places to buy them is displayed in a standard format, so you dont need to jump from one website to another. Its green Royalex with wood gunnels, cane insert seats and is 16 feet long. I bought it in '02. You might invest in a can of Watco Teak Oil since you can also use it on the rest of the wood although your wood trim does not look desperate for attention. Does anyone know if I could use a heat gun (oh-so-carefully) to remove the remaining license sticker from the bow? Scratches on the bottom but looks taken care of - asking $1,200. It's super gentleand that's what is on the Blackhawk in the pic. Mad River - Freedom Canoe. Ive never paddled a Sunrunner but they have a solid reputation. Around 1999 or 2000 the Coast Guard made Mad River change the way serial numbers were produced. They were early adopters of Kevlar and Royalex materials, switching to T-Formex when it wasdeveloped. Planned to take it outside for some glamor shots but this weekend has been absurdly hot and humid. From what I have read about varnish vs oil it makes sense that oil be used on components that flex as varnish is rigid and develops hairline fractures that over time allow water in. 3/4 . These are lightweight options well suited for portaging trips, as they are easier to carry. Your boat is stunning and you must be right about the ash as I paid attention to the weight of the yoke yesterday and too light to be oak. Just FYI my favorite home brew is 1/3 boiled linseed oil, 1/3 mineral spirits, 1/3 distilled white vinegar and this was once sold as Gunnel Lotion is a local canoe shop. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=929356. Mad River has been building canoes for almost 50 years. Rob, Mad River Serial NumberThanks for the responses. 1981 Mad River Canoe T.W. Conversely, if you are looking for an all-around canoe with added durability, Mad Rivers T-Formex Explorer 16 is the better choice. If youre eager to get on the water, then prepare to pay a bit more in the summertime. The company was born shortly after the founder, Jim Henry, won the 1971 U.S. National Open Canoe Championship in his hand-built canoe. They have a broad appeal, so youll find Mad River canoes on Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, Kijiji or other local classifieds pages. There is little worry about capsizing in calm conditions with the Adventure's wide, flat hull. If youre ready to start shopping, follow the links below to view Mad River canoes in our Paddling Buyers Guide. Does that make it a duck hunter? The Serial number is: VTB6009 OM73K A UV-resistant coating provides additional sunprotection. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. the last three digits month and year of manufacture. Thanks again everyone for the information. Great all around boat. 4/10 . This one. In the late 90's we were making some "spruce", "chianti", and "burgandy" Royalex hulls. Yes, definitely having fun with this current obsession. account. If the Hull Identification Number on the stern ends in a K it is kevlar, and a boat weight will tell you the rest. Hello fellow paddlers. No wood rot. I recommend the stuff with the green and white label or the teak oil. JavaScript is disabled. 3/4 . Other than the crack in the wood gunwale near the stern end, everything looks fine. It has bench seats and a symmetrical hull so that solo or tandem paddlers can paddle the Journey. The 16-foot Explorer is the flagship model, and Mad Rivers bestselling canoe. Their heaviest boats are made from polyethylene, like the 85-pound Adventure 16. Also a Pathfinder which is 15 2" and looks well used - with cane seats that need replacement. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. Hi Rob, My Mad River Canoe serial # is MAD AX988G798. You should be able to tell if this is the case as there will be a visible roughly football-shaped raised area on the hull bottom where the Airex foam bottom core is and the raised contour of around 7 side ribs extending from that up to the gunwale line. New listings: mad river canoe - $750 (GORE), 17 FOOT Mad River ME Solo Whitewater Canoe - $750 (Albuquerque) The winters are long here and the state owes me a property tax refund so??? Mad River Sunrunner Canoe ); Old Town is 1996 and the Wenonah is from 1991. They are focusing resources on two of their other brands, Perception and Wilderness Systems, to meet the surging demand for kayaks. 4/13 . ButI can envision it with the seat components, thwart, & yoke matching the gunwales. But youd want to make sure you had calm conditions for going onto the Wisconsin. This canoe has provenitself time and again on trips I have taken in canada, maine, n.h. vt. You are using an out of date browser. 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