Great move, if it is actually happened. "I'll get some more guns Sarge!" I am fascinated that New Zealand is mentioned in relation to the Type-26. Troll G, was BANNED from Save The Royal Navy webblog a few weeks ago for disruptive and insulting behaviour and disrespect for ex-service men/women. All this at a quarter of the original price point. This is looking increasingly likely by the make up of the I-SSGW which is currently being allocated to T 23 towed array only. Yeah let’s hope shipbuilding gets steady constant work for decades. The Italians are looking at a future Large Destroyer type ship (DDX) there might be a chance of a tie -in. The Danish vessels were built to fulfil the same role as the Type 45s.

“The Ministry of Defence want to get to a position where there is a constant rolling production line of Type 26/Type 45 successor and a second production line of Type 31e – building both lines permanently. This would have to be maintained for a sole-sourced BAE T4X. When asked about what comes after the Type 26 on the Clyde, Sweeney made mention of the desire to keep building a new vessel based on the Type 26 Frigate. As it would be next to impossible to add additional beam by the form of plugs without significantly upsetting the ship’s speed. I do not know about waterline issues etc… but power generation for modern weapons must i deed surely be important.
IIRC ~150-200 might be autonomous with some unmanned ships being surveillance and others armed. This would significantly increase the ship’s stability allowing the carried weight to… Read more ». Please Ignore the previous poster, Troll G who was BANNED from the STRN webblog for bad behaviour. You Increase its L/D limit by doing this.

May just as well do the opposite; a significantly cheaper hull thanks to existing expertise and economies of scale, with a quicker production time and a proven power plant and sea worthiness.

Very kind. I have every confidence that if GB goes ahead with modifying the design as AWDs then Australia will do likewise.

The Royal Navy will then have three Standard Classes of Ship (Type 45, Type 26 and Type 31) allowing for a more sustainable UK Shipbuilding Industry. But really for the future, my understanding is that we will need at least 4 large AA destroyers to work with… Read more ». The Type-26, while ideal for the Pacific are also a Tier 1 capacity when our existing frigates are general purpose (GP); the ubiquitous ‘built for but not with’ towed sonar array and SSMs. As I’ve said time and time again, the UK needs a better way to effectively sustain its shipbuilding industry, let’s hope we’re heading in that direction. Why not replace a Type 45 with …. I think it was used by the Americans to help validate some of the plans for littoral combat ship.

So UK magazines are effectively “deeper” than the paper number when compared to the USN.

Short range missiles can be quad packed so capacity will not be the issue but buying enough missiles to fill them. Hull design is dirt cheap. Best for us to remain sanguine about the matter.

@Roders96 I think you need to look at that market more carefully. In addition refurbish and maintain 4 of the current Type 45 and… Read more », That’s a hell of a wish list.

To compensate for this, my thoughts would be to add outriggers to each side to create a quasi-trimaran. I am fascinated that New Zealand is mentioned in relation to the Type-26. Any attempt to convert a frigate into a destroyer needs to be thought through thoroughly! The RAN do not use Sea Ceptor, nor shown an interest in it as they use ESSM in the same role, using CIWS as their PD system. That may have been true in the past. That’s why it makes sense to re-use its hull for the T45 successor. Have you posted it here before?

Talk of the US taking out cruise missiles with a 155mm, rail guns, laser weapons, plus new designs of CIWS guns.

Unless the Pound plummets, that price is way too high. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Depend power generation? For what little I know it sounds good to me would make a impressive looking beast as well! Why not say 'frigates and destroyers'? Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, currently somewhat up in the air given no contract has yet been awarded, HMS Queen Elizabeth finally silences claims of ‘carrier without jets’, British and American F-35s take flight in Exercise Joint Warrior, British frigate and destroyer practice shore bombardment, British carrier strike group comes under mock ‘air attack’, F-35 jets drop practice Paveways on Garvie Island for three days, British Reaper drops GBU-12 on Islamic State terrorists, 22 jets practice ‘fighting’ over the North Sea, Misinformation spreads claiming ‘Nuclear submarine on fire in Scotland’. Sweeney also discussed the Type 31e, echoing a concern that many commentators have also expressed, that the vessel may ultimately detract from the Type 26 Frigate programme. You have no argument from me on that score given the Christchurch Earthquake and the more recent Kaikoura event showed that we need more vessels, more aircraft and more boots.

I like the idea of the combined Sampson and the SMART L MM into a single mast.

The last vessel in the class is likely to be in the water by 2035. I’m getting a little confused really as to what constitutes a frigate/destroyer/cruiser these days with the Type 23 and 26 both being heavier than a Type 42 and bigger than what much of NATO calls a destroyer. CAMPAIGNING JOURNALISM 4EVER. 57% Upvoted.

The aspiration is to achieve continuous shipbuilding with the Type 26 programme in Glasgow beyond the current planned number of eight vessels.”. However, a light-manned or optionally manned ship may be a half way house before full unmanned operation, a Type 31 for example can operate with only ~20… Read more ».

To do a vertical take off it has to have virtually no fuel load and no munitions on board. The greatest defence is attack so fit strike length VLS and arm them with NSM until Perseus is ready. If T26 can handle this, then an acoustically silent AAW destroyer/frigate can only be a good thing.

TBH I would rather the focus was on Type 45 having a mid life refurb with the full length vertical tubes fitted than a rush to build their successor. Picking up on a comment in this article and linking to the article on the market for naval radar systems. Type 45 is already a mobile power station, it dosnt work like that.
The impracticalities aren’t trivial for a navy that is already struggling to maintain and upgrade its ships and include cost, lack of dockyard resources, impact on ship ship’s center… Read more », May I ask, why not (for example) 3 GaN AESA panels rotating; lighter than the 6+ fixed panel system, with the benefits of the latest hardware? X band is not dead yet.

Exactly how is not public, but if you were creating a T4x, my guess would be getting rid of the mission bay for a couple of boat bays with a missile silo in between as per the A140 (export T31). If T26 can handle this, then an acoustically silent AAW destroyer/frigate can only be a good thing.

The pilot managed to evade the first missile, but in doing so got struck by the second – just don’t mention IFF and itchy fingers. The Mast Head height is the key matter. This to me is pie in the sky. Currently, ships are largely built in Govan and floated down the river to Scotstoun to be fully fitted out. Daniel, Nuclear warheads have being dropped accidentally by aircraft, and in aircraft crashing in the past, they did not explode. Keep the steady drumbeat idea going but for both types, Type 26 and T4X, and instead of all new classes of ships later on just leep churning them out and evolving each batch. And if we are going for smaller ones then why not use the Type 31. ( A couple of submarines would come in handy too! An AAW Destroyer has less need for multi-mission bays & 2nd helicopters than a Frigate. I don’t necessarily see that it needs to be BIGGER though. I mean, I know the silent service keep the noise down – but they do exist! Rail guns will be coming online and are very large by the looks of it and require enormous energy production. I disagree, I think we will get exports for the Type 31. Heavy fighting erupts over separatist Nagorno-Karabakh (Armenia Vs Azerbaijan), Army Professionally Qualified Recruitment. Australia currently uses mk41.


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