There's a practical limit but not a fixed limit. Result: Encyclopedia passives give +10 xp and +2 Real, -2 Suggestion (Possibly broken – doesn’t actually provide the benefits listed? I take it you didn't get the ending for her where she goes off to tell White Pines to let the Union have Martinaise, fully acknowledging that this might spread the revolution elsewhere? Many Thoughts do indeed provide skill check bonuses once unlocked for use in the Thought Cabinet, but will not contribute any further bonuses onto the player until fully Internalized. #8. But there's quite a few good ones too! Think about it. Refusing bribes definitely gets you some – keeping your word and stuff for more points? That's pretty much the most interesting ones to me. I feel like I got about forty points or so on a full playthrough, doing almost all side objectives. I was a communist, facist, woman hater. Is it possible to max out everything with enough grinding? Actual Art Degree, Jamais Vu, Wompty Dompty Dom Center and Masovian Socioeconomics had me rolling in the exp. How to get: Throw up twice while looking at the Hanging Corpse (i.e, fail the endurance check, get ammonia salts, then fail again).
Absolutism is at best misguided and at worst genocidal. In order to “equip” one of these thoughts, you have to use a skill point to unlock a slot in your thought cabinet. Some of these thoughts affect your character internally, changing your skills / skill caps. You’re passed out on the blue tiles of the hostel room floor. How to get: Talk to Measurehead (The Union building doorman) and pass a Conceptualization check. Important to note – You don’t have to internalize a thought in order to access the associated dialog. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews. Other Thoughts are also instantly unlocked once the conditions are met without needing input from the player. The soldier at the end of the game is a good example of this. Can they really grant ~ 2000+ XP?! Alternately, you have to pass a hidden Inland Empire check. Walking around doesn’t take up any time. This is true class consciousness: being completely aware of your relationship with capital and your place in the system, and the only person that has any of that in this entire game is... the stand-in for the owner class. How to get: Check Cuno’s shack.
Result: Learning cap for Authority raised to 5. Once the cabinet is full (or beforehand, if you don’t like the effects of a certain thought) you can use a skill point to erase an internalized thought. Thats a larger hassle because you have to be really careful about how you play the entire early game. While researching: 1 hours 15m, -1 Shivers. Got at least one level from it so far and haven't been really far. There is also a man so rich that he literally bends the law of physics. You know, just like real life.
While researching: 1 hour, -2 Savoir Faire, Result: +1 Reaction Speed Empty hand slots give Suggestion +1, How to get: Pass an Encyclopedia check with the Mirror in your room regarding “the Expression”, Results: +1 Pain Threshold All PSY (Purple) Learning Caps raised by 1. Good if going for sobriety)Cleaning out the Rooms (+1 Suggestion, +1 Inland Empire, +1 Rhetoric)Searchlight Division (+2 Perception)The Bow Collector ( +3 Shivers )Torque Dork (+2 interfacing).
Results: +2 Physical Instrument if shirt slot is empty, -1 Encyclopedia, How to get: Talk to Lena (Wheelchair lady) about the invisible Phasmid (Requires Suggestion) then go outside and listen closely. Just talking to Garte, asking why Silvie left, and loudly proclaiming yourself a feminist should be enough. How to get: Talk to Joyce (The Rich lady) about her company Wild Pines (Specifically the option about “8 percent of *all* cargo in the world”). While researching: hours, -1 logic (or -2 conceptualization? Result: -1 Logic, Learning caps for the following raised to 6: Visual Calculus, Suggestion, Electrochemistry, Composure. How to get: Talk to Siileng after the racist Lorry driver accuses him of drug smuggling and successfully pass a composure check. I don't see why you would expect THAT kind of story to give you a non-critical assessment of any ideology, which is really what I feel the OP wanted. How to get: Keep warning people about the coming apocalypse, While researching: 6 hours 55 m, -1 Rhetoric, Result: Learning cap for Inland Empire raised to 6, Learning cap for Shivers raised to 6. Communist dialogue choices are almost never specifically materialist critiques of say, the social dynamics that the game adroitly presents, it's just tankie memes like "WE MUST GRIND UP THE BOURGEOSIE". I think that while the game fails to talk about political ideology, it succeeds at talking about the feeling of HAVING a political ideology. Result: -1 difficulty to all PSY passives, -1 Drama. While researching: 6 hours 30m, -1 Physical Instrument, Result: -1 Esprit de Corps, Cigarettes give +2 INT. Representatives: Cindy the Skull, Evrart Claire, The Gardener, The Deserter How would you even implement it well? It's the false equivalence of "horseshoe" theory or liberal historians that equated all non-liberal ideologies as totalitarian. Become a hero or an absolute disaster of a human being. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the DiscoElysium community. It is derided and mocked in some bits and in relation to some character and dialogue but also presented with sympathy and reverence through others, sometimes in the same conversation. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. What was the name of that thought? Failed white checks restore morale. The postal box and the furnace room in the Doomed Commercial area count. Result: All white checks unlocked, you can spot Arno posters in the environment. She outright says that capital will consume the world (or something along those lines), but that she's not bothered by it. I finished the thought but i pass ... Mazovian Socio-Economics Fairweather T-500 Usually those that deal with +XP/money bonuses for some events. I agree with your take, Joyce herself even denigrates ultraliberalism and her part in it, she characterizes herself as a monster she's just self aware an willing to live with that. The thought cabinet has a total of 12 available slots. Become a hero or an absolute disaster of a human being. 3 are unlocked to begin with, 9 more can be unlocked by spending a skill point. For me, the political discourse of the game is all about how ideological purity is meaningless and useless in face of corrupt actors who will always have the leg up on you in the real world. Once again, easiest to do so during your HQ call. Joyce lets you simulate your own response to the revolutionary moment, and the game really shows its hand here, because you have two real options, some absolute Buttigieg liberal drivel about modest social programs that even Joyce the liberal herself makes fun of you for, or an option that I genuinely cannot tell is supposed to be communist or fascist about killing seven hundred million people. How to get: Communist dialog options.
Once the player chooses to Internalize a Thought, they commit to sitting through a Research bonus for the duration of the "research" period, which varies wildly depending on each Thought. Mazovian Socio-Economics and Jamais Vu are alright, but take long enough to pay for themselves (that is, to make you enough EXP to cover their debuffs) that I think they're sort of marginal. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. speaking with Leha about her dice-making business, Learning cap for Perception raised to 5; Speed gives 1 PSY, Successfully shoot down the corpse in the yard north of Whirling-In-Rags, or otherwise accomplish other feats of camaraderie with Kim Kitsuragi, +1 Empathy towards Kim; +1 Espirit de Corps, -1 Hand/Eye Coordination; Conceptualization passive checks heal +1 Morale and give +10 XP, +1 Conceptualization; Learning cap for Rhetoric raised to 5, All MOT White Checks unlocked; Reveals Arno van Eyck gig posters in the world, Pass a Logic 16 white check with Soona after completing, +1 Suggestion: Wake up; +1 Inland Empire: In a new life; +1 Rhetoric: By the seaside, Fail the boule throw attempt after speaking to Rene Arnoux at Roundabout North, +2 Physical Instrument if Shirt slot is empty; -1 Encyclopedia.
You won't come even close to maxing everything because there are 24 skills. To me, the game presented communism as being felt by its adherents (namely, the Detective and the Deserter, but others as well) as an incoherent nostalgia for a time when the people of Revachol stood for something, against empire and capital. There is a light teasing of liberalism, and the game's milieu is obviously how miserable the final victory of liberal, international capital is, but it just doesn't feel as meanspirited as the game's treatment of anything to left of the Chapo Trap House hosts (who are literally all voicing characters in the game). Kill (in-game) time by playing the game! A quick search with the word "fascist" will give you multiple instances of the correct answer to your question.
Really, the best options are whichever ones fit the character you're trying to roleplay as, I think. Why does adopting things like Revacholian nationhood basically prevent you from roleplaying as a nationalist? The official Reddit community for Disco Elysium - a mind bending RPG and the best existential dread simulator ever created. There are thoughts that give experience, which causes you to gain more skills points than you'll ever need, and you can get all of them early into Day 1: Jamais Vu (Derealization): Talk to Lena about getting a reality lowdown then learn more about reality from Joyce, Mazovian Socio-Economics: Say enough left-wing things when talking to people (telling Kim that corporate owners should be fed to pigs, asking Lena if you're living in a dictatorship of the proletariat, telling Siileng you're a socialist while trying to buy his speakers, etc). Result: +20% Zoom Out Distance, All MOT (Agility/Yellow) learning caps raised by 1, How to get: Speak to Egg head in the church about making his beat more hardcore, then fight the right tape. The bulk of the slots will probably go to good net +skills Thoughts listed in my main post. How to get: Keep insisting that the case may have supra-natural complications. Disco Elysium – T-500 Armor & Clothes Where to Find? Nothing creepier than an enemy that smiles as it drives a Sabre into your stomach.
Also, what you can spend on a skill depends on your starting stats. Result: Int and Psy red check failures heal 1 morale. My central issue with this game- the one thing that honestly leaves a bad taste in my mouth, is that I feel it has a fairly juvenile take on ideology. I got a major boost by asking Garte for the garbage disposal key, and selecting the most communist “are you really guarding your garbage from the homeless?” option. Actual Art Degree, Jamais Vu, Wompty Dompty Dom Center and Masovian Socioeconomics had me rolling in the exp. Second the game is not about playing an ideologue, revolutionary or some kind of organizer of any political affiliation. 3 are unlocked to begin with, 9 more can be unlocked by spending a skill point. Observing the game first helps you fail. Rigorous Self-Critique heals on red checks failures, might also be worth it for some, dunno. Really, the best options are whichever ones fit the character you're trying to roleplay as, I think. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. The thought cabinet has a total of 12 available slots. Ultimately there's a bunch more though. That said, ultra-liberalism is kind of worth it, as you get -1 Empathy in exchange for a lot of money.